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Friday, April 9, 2010
Atheist God
4:54 PM by Christi Bowman
I went to see
Peter Rollins last night. Incredible! Peter is a theologian from Belfast. He made some fabulous points...my personal favorite: Christianity has the only God who becomes an atheist. On the cross God doubts God. Jesus' famous last words "My God, my God why have you forsaken me."
I woke up this morning conceptualizing the Christian God as an atheist and the irony brought a smile to my face. though now, with the freedom this insight brings, I am wondering if there is a way we can begin to speak of this God outside the confines of religion.
If Jesus did indeed come to show us how to live and he died in doubt of God then: "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"
It is with great humility and the acknowledgement that I "see through a glass dimly" that I say the following:
This God does not belong to Christianity, this God belongs to the world. This God doesn't care if you can't believe in God, this God understands...because he experienced it too. Not because Jesus is God, if you can't bring yourself to believe that, but because God experiences life through each and every one of us and he experienced the doubting of God through Jesus as God also does through Richard Dawkins. God loves people...all people...beyond any concept we have of love...and God isn't mad at a single human being. I no longer like to quote the Bible to prove a point, but this is a profoundly Christan concept: "Our fight is not against flesh and blood."
Sure there may be consequences of disbelief in this life...but don't we all have areas where we live out disbelief (even if we can't admit it) and don't we all suffer the consequences in those areas of our lives...no matter who we are or what we profess?
Our disbelief and our belief have eternal consequences, but it does not effect where we will spend eternity. What does the term "eternal consequences" even mean? Christianity has made "eternal consequences" sound so horrible, when in fact the fact that I have decided to have kids has eternal consequences and if I had decided not to, that also would have "eternal consequences"...neither bad nor good...eternal consequences are what they are.
If there is an afterlife, and I tend to think there is, then we all end up in God. For me, that does not mean we all end up in whatever God was to us in this life...there is not enough unity to that...I think we all end up together in the same God. That is not to say that I believe that God to be the Christian God. I believe the God, of which I speak, is far beyond any religious construct of God.
To say this God belongs to Christianity does this God a great diservice. To say this God belongs to any religion does this God a great diservice. If we give this God to Christianity, or to any religion, than we let that one lense define this God...
Religions carry baggage...religions are hurtful. They exclude and they divide. They are not living breathing organisms in the very fact that they stop growing...they stop searching for truth. As Peter Rollins so eloquently put it last night..."religion believes for us." We stop searching when we ascribe to only one set of ideologies or limit our search for truth to a particular set of boundries.
I've recently been reading Buddhist philosophers, not because I want to leave Christianity behind...quite the opposite...I want to keep the thing that makes me profoundly Christian (belief in the Jesus way of living life) while seeking to understand the others' engagement with God.
The way people string words together has been bothering me as of late...even if those words are not being spoken directly to me. They make me uncomfortable because I tend to see people as speaking with authority on whatever they happen to be pontificating on.
One such person said something close to: atheists who are interested in spirituality are Buddhists, Taoists, or Confucians. I felt the sting of those words (even though of course he did not intend for me to) because I heard: As a theist I am not allowed to consider their thoughts as a form of engagement with God.
If this is true, than in this regard Buddhism is exclusive. There are beautiful things about Buddhism, but the very fact that it wants to exclude me based on an experience that I neither asked for nor can help, tends to build in me some resentment. Even though Buddhism cannot tell me that I cannot learn from it, on a deep level it tells me "you will never be accepted here." That breeds contempt. It is what is wrong with religion. If what I heard this man to be saying is true, then, Buddhism will not meet me where I am and walk with me. It stops me at the door and says I cannot accept you as you are.
Christianity claims to be radically different...it claims that its Christ accepts you where you are. The real Christ may accept you wherever you may be, but Christianity's Christ does not. You do not have to look far on my blog posts in the comments section to see where Christianity excludes. My last post, comment two, tells me I must believe in the literal bodily resurrection of Christ as God or my eternity is of the damnable sort. Whether I believe in a literal bodily resurrection, or not, is not the point. The fact that there is criteria is the point. What I heard someone imply regarding Buddhism, was for me exactly what Christianity is for others...and that is not Christianity...or is it? (I can run around in circles on that one point alone...but that is because I am to steeped in Christendom (whether I like it or not) and at times think in terms of God favoring one religion.) Perhaps Christianity is not so radically different after all.
I cannot help that I have experienced the sacred and therefore believe. The atheist cannot help not experiencing the sacred and not being able to believe. And everybody in between cannot help having the experience they are having and coming to conclusions based on those experiences. I cannot snap my finger for the atheist and cause the atheist to have my experience...in the same vein the atheist cannot snap their finger and cause me to experience the very things that have caused them to come to the conclusions they have come to.
None of us are deceitful in what we truly believe in our heart of hearts. If we respect each other as we walk along side each other then our beliefs can be our starting point. And the sky can be the limit as to where we end up If there is safety and warm invitation to explore.
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Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Can We Raise the Love of Jesus from the Dead In Our Churches...Literally
6:42 PM by Christi Bowman
I have been reading a few liberal theologians as of late, and to be quite honest I have found them to be a breath of fresh air. They do not treat the questioning of tradition as though it were heresy. Maybe it is the lack of belief in a literal and/or eternal hell that gives them such patience, but whatever the reason they do not see any need to give the "right Christian response" to the questions people of other faiths or the people of no faith have been asking for centuries; nor do they need to instill fear or belittle their readers with shameful rhetoric should their readers be asking these questions while wrestling with their Christian heritage.
I have not been comfortable with identifying as a Christian for a while now. I am fine with follower of the way of Jesus or something similar...but, for me, Christianity has become such a loaded term.
The weekend before Easter Kevin flew to North Carolina to work and I flew out with him in order to visit with
Hugh Hollowell and his wife Renee (together the two of them head up a fabulous ministry doing incredible things:
Love Wins.) We happened to be hanging out with them on Sunday and decided to join them for services with a Mennonite congregation. We loved it. We reminisced for a short while about the few weeks we went to Living Water, a Mennonite congregation in the city of Chicago, but our reminiscing quickly turned to lament as we discussed the impossibility of being a part of their community life while we were still residing in the burbs. It was then that we remembered seeing a small Mennonite building in our little town and we decided that our first Sunday back, which just happened to be Easter, we would pay them a visit.
I poke fun at culture and at times find myself longing to throw off its constraints, but their was a certain excitement, perhaps in the cultural familiarity, about being in a church building with people who identify as Christians on Easter morning. I felt the morning pregnant with so much possibility...as if, for the first time, I was in sync, emotionally, with what I had grown up being told this whole day was about. If there was to be anything left in Christendom for me to hold on to...I was pretty sure I was going to find it that morning, amongst that group of people.
We found our seats upstairs; while our kids, excited to meet new people, were safely in their respective classes downstairs. There was a resurrection slide on the power point and while looking at it I decided to lean over and ask my husband about the importance of believing in a literal interpretation of the resurrection. My husband was trying to answer, but I found it hard to pay attention; the preacher had begun his sermon abruptly with proof texted verse saying very harsh things regarding disbelief in the literal resurrection. After making belief in the resurrection a "where you will spend eternity" issue, he then went on to say: if you do not believe in a literal interpretation of the resurrection of Jesus than you are not a Christian...but he didn't stop there...he went on to say: if anyone was not in agreement with his interpretation they could just go visit the Unitarians down the street (If I was brave I would have raised my hand and asked him for directions) ...or better yet just go home.
I am not here to debate literal vs. metaphorical interpretations of the resurrection, what I want to know is when did Christendom get so mean? How dare somebody stand in the pulpit and play on people's fear by preaching a Hellenistic construct of eternal damnation with little relation to any Jewish vision of Sheol and the after life (Dante's Inferno.) Also, there is a whole sect of people who are serious about the Jesus way, much more serious than some literalists I know, who passionately call themselves Christians while believing in a metaphorical view of the resurrection...who did that guy think he was to strip them of that label? Judge not lest ye be judged says to me: if anyone thinks being called a Christian is what gets you through those pearly gates then it would be wise to not go stripping others of the label because of how their beliefs differ...they will find themselves in that same position...only, according to their beliefs, it will really matter. As for kicking people out of the assembly who are having trouble swallowing what others so readily do, what happened to walking with someone? Jesus walked and taught his disciples for three years. I'm not even going to get into, with much detail, how hurtful a comment like that might have been to someone who affiliates closely or knows someone who does affiliate with the Unitarian church. What about building bridges with each other to better serve the community we find ourselves in?
I don't know, it doesn't look promising from where I sit. This conformity before community, to a set of ideologies, has got to stop...and quickly. Fear and hate don't draw people to you...not today. People want to be accepted where they are at...it is not about a refusal change, it is about a deep seeded need to be loved. Love people and then everybody changes...including yourself.
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Sunday, February 7, 2010
Questions and Thoughts about Baby Landina
11:20 PM by Christi Bowman
I sent the following letter to
Shaun King, pastor of
Courageous Church in Atlanta, asking questions about his efforts for
Baby Landina. Although I did not know how the pastor would respond to my questions, I was not at all prepared for his response via
his Twitter stream.

I was fairly shocked at being called a
Wackjob and an
evil stalker by a person who I respected for the amazing relief work he has been orchestrating for Haiti. My intentions in writing the letter were never cold or demeaning, but instead stemmed from a desire to seek understanding.
Perhaps I have sanctity of life issues, I don't know. My understanding tells me this is a journey and I don't have to have all the right answers today. The only way I will learn is by asking questions and feeling people and issues out as I discuss them.
I cannot guarantee you that I will in any way come to your conclusions once you share them with me, nor will I feel the need to apologize for how I see things should I choose after talking with you to keep my own current opinion regarding baby Landina.
We all see through a glass dimly. Neither one of us has the right answer. I in no way see you as an expert...you have a different opinion than me, and I am seeking wisdom.
Baby Landina has no parents and no known living relatives. She is a resident of the poorest country on her continent where without parents or relatives she will most likely end up in an orphanage with pretty poor living conditions. She needed to have her arm amputated. Forgive me if I am wrong, but third world countries don't strike me as having an over abundance of white collar jobs. Without an arm, even if she was to live, what kind of future would she have?
I am in no way advocating for mass killings of the underprivileged by asking these questions. It is just that this baby is on the brink of death, and life isn't what I would call a gift. There is tons and tons of pain in the world even for those of us that live with immense amounts of privilege. I can't imagine life being any worse and yet I know that it is for much more of the world than it isn't. A very sad reality.
God doesn't promise us a pain free existence, not by a long shot...I would even say that pain is a gift...but in that same way that Jesus tells his disciples that He doesn't give to them like the world gives to them. I'm not advocating that we let people die in order to help them avoid pain. I am saying though that I think death can be a gift. If the situation is looking impossible it may just be that God wants to give his precious 3month old Landina the gift of death.
I happen to be a universalist and believe that this side of eternity is not the only place you get to make eternal decisions...but even non universalists show grace to a 3 month old. What could she possibly need this life for at 3 months? Her future looks bleak...sure she could beat the odds, but her future is still bleak because life is bleak...whether privileged or underprivileged.
If things were lining up for baby Landina that would be great...I guess if you feel the need to stamp and shout to intervene...whatever...I just think that sometimes God wants something, but does something else b/c people ask him to...I think we should be careful and consider everyone when we are asking God to intervene...
For what reason or for whom exactly are you/we asking God to intervene? I started following you b/c I thought you had something to say, but I have been getting the vibe lately that this is a lot more about you...perhaps it didn't start out that way, but you've been getting a lot of attention and I see all the talk of awards...Are you sure you aren't doing this to be a hero? Do you plan on keeping tabs on baby Landina if she is kept alive to see what God spared her for or do you just want to see her live so you can say you made it happen?
Don't get me wrong, I think being a hero is fine...the world probably needs heroes. You have done some great things and the noise you have made has impacted thousands and may impact millions. I have retweeted you on several occasions...even prompted my husband to give money to some of the things you have organized.
Forgive me if my hunch is wrong, but I sincerely feel as though you may be crossing a line here. I do believe that God answers prayer...I believe God at times gives up what God wants for what we ask for. I personally have ceased praying for miracles like this one b/c we don't know everything...we can't possibly take into consideration everything.
For us and our kids, living in industrialized nations, life can seem beautiful and well worth living...it can seem to us that if u don't get to live you miss out...but life isn't like that for everybody.
Perhaps God is sparing her from this life b/c he doesn't want to watch what her future will be...it will hurt God to watch her live out what others must live out...b/c of this tragedy she may be getting a pass and so might God. What if you are asking God to endure pain God wouldn't have to if God takes her into his presence..what if, b/c God loves you and those you have gotten to pray, he does indeed give you what you asked? You don't have to endure what God now has to endure....you don't even have to live the life Landina has to...which will be far harder due to the death of her birth parents and a missing arm in the third world. You don't have to be Landina's child whose life will be more complicated b/c her/his mommy doesn't have an arm. Nope, you get to live your cushy American life while others suffer at the hands of your prayer...and it will all be God's will (b/c he chose to answer your prayer) and he will make something beautiful out of the mess...but you have no idea what you are asking for...
this is all emotional and so "now" oriented and bent out of your world view which isn't the only one.
I have not meant to hurt you, make you mad or anything else. I have been blunt, but that is the only way I know how to get across what I feel I need to get across. I do not wish to unfollow you because I disagree so please if you are going to respond at all do not reply with that. I respect you... Think you have good motives ect...I just have bad feelings about this and wanted to discuss/share
Thanks for your time
Christi
As you can see in the first three paragraphs, I do nothing but admit that my understanding is more than likely flawed. I was hoping to get the perspective of a man I admired from a far but was having trouble understanding in that moment. As an American, behind the scenes, I have done what I can do...given where I can give...and will continue to do so. What is going on in Haiti is beyond my comprehension. There are no easy answers.
This morning, I read, In "Conspire Magazine:"
"Close to the end of all things there is a Hello. And we realize that the end of all things is the beginning"
I have a twitter friend, Hugh Hallowell, who says:
"Jesus won't pay your utility bill, but he will sit in the dark with you"
I'm working out my salvation and doing the best that I can to make some sort of sense out of this God I am madly in love with. I mean no disrespect and am always willing to dialogue. I will be the first to admit that I am wrong...but I will need to discuss it. My favorite verse is "We all see through a glass dimly" To me that says, don't take yourself too seriously, but it also gives me the freedom to take everyone else less seriously.
Peace.
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Tuesday, January 19, 2010
The Past, The Future, and Living in the Present.
9:26 PM by Christi Bowman
I went to the gym alone and worked out hard. My reward, as always, was a nice long sit in the sauna. While inside, I read the fourth chapter of my current book for a second time (it had blown my mind the first.) It did so again.
I am rarely competitive, except for in the gym. My competitive nature kept me seated in the sauna for five minutes longer than my usual thirty; I like to be the first one in and the last one out. I have no idea why this is, but my resolve is high and my tenacity strong. As I exited the tiny room of cedar, my body was dripping and my head and heart were pounding. I was the last one to leave, but the sauna was the only winner.
I sat down on a bench in the women's locker room, next to locker twenty six, preparing to cool down, relax, and meditate on the powerful concepts in chapter four. For a brief moment in time my body relaxed, all tension was gone, and I was completely taken by the holiness of solitude.
But, as soon as I began to enjoy my chance at reflection I felt bitterness creep into my soul. In a split second I "watched" anger and resentment steal my joy. I had stumbled upon some much needed time of solitude, and my thoughts would not allow me to stay in the present long enough to enjoy it. Instead, my thoughts began bemoaning the fact that in my current phase of life I cannot count on these times...
I came to the conclusion that I am never alone; even my thoughts disturb me. Are my thoughts me?
When I was younger, before marriage, I was scared of being alone...forever. The thought of that fear consumed me. Once married, my husband would need to leave sometimes, and the fear of being alone would overwhelm me. When I found out I was pregnant I was over joyed...I would never find myself alone again. I have been pregnant three times now and I am never alone. I often find myself dreaming of the day when I can expect to be alone...most of the time.
As I sat on the bench by locker twenty-six, thinking about the past and coveting the future, a horrible thought presented itself. It seemed to ask me why I thought, if I had yet to learn to live in the present, a future present would bring any real satisfaction? It seemed to taunt me by pointing out that my past futures had in all actuality never completely solved the problem of my existence. If marriage had not calmed my fears, and parenthood had not brought me true happiness, than why did I seem to put my hope in the fact that true happiness still lies ahead in the future? It doesn't, it never will. When I arrive in my future present, what will be there to keep me from living in that present?
As if by some gift, I saw what my older self would worry about when I finally got all the alone time I had been coveting...what will rob me of joy in the future will once again be the fear of being alone. My children will be gone and I will worry about whether I did right by them and that thought will haunt me when I am alone...it will haunt me because I spent the time I was with them coveting a future without them.
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Wednesday, December 16, 2009
It Should Cost Something!
8:03 PM by Christi Bowman
I found myself in the middle of a small controversy over a status update I had posted on Facebook the other day. The conversation quickly turned to a debate over wealth.
"Sometimes I am overwhelmed with passages like Luke 3:10-18 and think following Christ and U.S. culture are irreconcilable"
I have been mulling over many things these past few weeks and this discussion helped weave those many things together.
I have been wrestling, for the better part of a while now, with a God of miracles and healing vs. a God of suffering.
I think of Mother Theresa: As a nun she had taken a vow of poverty, and she lived in solidarity with the poor she was among. Before she would give away shoes to the needy she would claim. as her own the most inferior pair. Because of this practice her feet were in bad condition...malformed and misshaped. It has been said that her decision caused her no small amount of physical pain.
Mother Theressa's reality is difficult for Americans to understand, if we are honest. I think, for some of us, it would be hard to imagine taking the very worst pair of shoes...every time...but, it would also be very hard for us to understand, if we had indeed been blessed with enough insight to have that kind of humility, why God hadn't chosen to watch over our feet and keep them safe from harm. We would feel as though our great sacrifice had gone ignored and unappreciated.
"God's permissive will is the testing
He uses to reveal His true sons and daughters" ~ Oswald Chambers
before we go any farther I must state that I am a universalist. It is IMPORTANT that you realize I have NO ONE person in mind as I write this. If you disagree with me after reading (and many of you will) and you feel as though I am insinuating that the lifestyle you are choosing to live is in my opinion not the lifestyle of a true son or daughter of God than please choose to look on the bright side by keeping in mind that not only does my opinion not count for much, but as a universalist I am NOT condemning you to hell for not believing the way I do...all I want...all I EVER want is nice, civil conversation (please do not try and convince me of your rightful place in heaven...and/or mine in hell.)
In other parts of the world, where the Church is persecuted, becoming a Christian is no small decision. It is not something to be considered just because you fear the eternal flames of the afterlife or are intrigued by mansions and streets of gold. In some respects, by choosing to become a follower of Christ, in these parts of the world, you are making a decision to enter into a very real hell this side of eternity. In these places it is not uncommon, for those who are already Christians and have made the choice to suffer, to adopt a policy of making would be converts wait a minimum of two years to fully take on Christ. There hope is that these would be converts will take those two years to really consider the cost and be fully cognizant of the would be/could be ramifications should they choose to finalize their decision.
Where is American Christianity's waiting period? Why don't we have a cost to count? Could it be we got lucky by an act of chance so random as a birthright? Is it possible that there really is no hell to enter here? Might you be willing to consider, along with me, the idea that American Christianity has missed something intrinsically linked with salvation? Per chance has it for far too long held hands with the wrong side? Has American Christianity made friends in high places and become an institution of entitlement where comfort is the expected norm and the lack of it an abhorrent stench?
I argue that there is a hell to enter here and it is the hell of poverty. All of those who disagreed with my Facebook status (mentioned above) argued that wealth was indeed a blessing and insinuated, if not out right said, that I was harsh and ridiculous for even slightly insinuating that it might not be. I don't necessarily disagree (the jury is still out) that being a wealthy person could be considered a blessing, but if wealth is a blessing, and here comes the harsh part, I'm convicted that living as a wealthy person (most are considered wealthy in America) and enjoying the benefits of your wealth (myself included)...even if you give some away...while others suffer...can in no way be seen as part of that blessing from God.
A friend of mine who has chosen to enter hell, Stephen Lamb, talks often about God's economy being one where everyone has enough. I often think about how insulting the idea of this economy might be to us as Americans. At first blush it sounds like a nice idea. But if you dig deep enough into the statement it is nothing short of a slap in the face to how most American Christians choose to live. This isn't talking about raising the poor to a western middle class standard of living but rather entering into their suffering and sharing all resources equally. God's economy effects YOUR/MY life...YOUR/MY comfort!
I propose that in order to be considered a true son or daughter of God...a true walker in the ways of Jesus, we take a 2 year sabbatical from considering ourselves Christian just because we ascent to certain beliefs and we make this thing more than about acquiring a mansion on streets of gold or a getting out of hell free card. This Christianity needs to cost us something..it cost God everything! Upon his death Jesus entered into hell (
Eph 4:8-10 &
I Pet 3: 18) and upon making the choice to die to our flesh we need to as well.
As a minimum requirement, an act of solidarity or good faith, we should have to count the cost of leaving our secluded neighborhoods where our eyes never have to meet those of the homeless if we don't want them to, and we should move into depressed neighborhoods. I'm not talking about quitting jobs...go to your nice job, make your six figures...but if we want to be called true sons and daughters of God lets quit hoarding!
Sure, God has a permissive will. He makes the rain to fall and the sun to shine on both the evil and the good. You can be born or marry into the right family, you can have the right kind of brain, the most able of bodies, or even the best of looks...all of these things can help you earn a better living than those less fortunate and because of that you can call them blessings (although I'm not entirely convinced.) God will not smite you if instead of choosing His economy you choose to live in that of America's. But what if how we live and what we do with our wealth while those around us suffer is a test? Do you have more than enough while others do without? I know I do and I can't get rid of it fast enough.
Jesus, though he eased the suffering of many, never chose to ease his own suffering. He never really eased the suffering of his disciples either. In the gospels you don't see healing parties break out among Jesus and the twelve. God's blessings aren't for us. Jesus learned obedience through that which He suffered. True disciples choose to suffer and while choosing to suffer they pour out the blessings of God onto others!
I pray over each and every one of you the blessing of struggling with your comfort!
Peace.
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Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Is a Christian Nation Anti-Christ?
2:14 PM by Christi Bowman
I love dialogue. My favorite part about reading a fellow blogger's blog is reading the comments his/her post has stirred his/her readers to make, because that is where the true conversation lies. A writer cannot disclaim everything nor can they come close to considering all of the opinions out there concerning the subject they have chosen to expound upon. It disturbs me when people get angry at the writer for not considering a certain aspect before writing his/her post. There is absolute merit to a reader pointing out something they believe the writer has not thought about when making his/her point...it is integral to discussion. Pointing out holes in a writer's thought helps both the reader and the writer form a more thought out opinion as long as both the reader and the writer are willing to be open minded. Still there is no need for anger, or sarcasm, or treating a writer as if they are stupid and not aloud to have an opinion if their post fails to champion a certain reader's opinion on the subject.
"To please all is to please none"
This post is a follow up post to yesterday's post: "
Is Living Counter to American Culture Un-godly?" A dialogue about my post began in the comments section of Facebook. It seems that some readers saw my post yesterday as an attack on consumerism. It was not. My brother in law, as part of his response posted this:
"If instead I hear you call for a change in America because of over-indulgence, I can support that"
I love the family marrying my husband has brought into my life...and I thank my brother in law for his support as that means a lot to me. His comment about yesterday's post sparked this reply from me (spruced up and expounded upon for blog purposes) and I am writing it as a blog post because I think it helps further expound on what I was actually saying
yesterday.
Viva la dialogue!
I don't think I would push for a change in America. Pushing for a change in America because of a belief system is exactly where I believe the problem lies! Because Christians believe in the "godly" heritage of America, it seems they feel they have a right, whenever they feel a Christian ideology has been trampled upon, to dictate the morality of the nation by shaking their fist in the air, insulting the American people by insisting on a national return to God, and dictating that return by insisting on the need to follow the particular Christian path they deem is the most correct and therefor the biblical one. I believe this is anti-Christ in that Jesus did not get the Roman empire nor the Jewish nation to back his ideology as part of his plan.
Why, if this was not the example that Christ set, do Christians, of all practices, feel the need to get America, the nation, on board to make their ideology legit? Why is their so much faith and trust in the dirty rotten system? What I don't believe Christian's realize, and maybe I am naive in this, is that if America, the nation, were to adopt a certain way of practicing Christianity, then because America is a nation and can only do what a nation does, then that particular way of practicing Christianity would become oppressive and therefor anti Christ.
Christianity preaches "Do unto others as you would have it done unto you" and "Love others as you love yourself" right? Why can't Christians practice what they preach and in so doing love Muslims, for example, like they love themselves and realize that since Christians would more than likely reject a Muslim nation it is more than probable that Muslims would reject a Christian nation and MAYBE...JUST MAYBE separation of church and state exists for far more reasons than to protect Christians from other religions, but it also serves to protect other peoples from the religion of Christianity (yes Christians, unfortunately people need protection from some of you as well)...HECK...I think we would ALL agree that if America adopted as its national practice some forms of the religion of Christianity (Fred Phelps anyone?) even those who call themselves Christians would feel oppressed...NOBODY wants a nation that gets behind a religion...unless it is their religion...and then it must be their faction of that religion. Why does a religion need a nation's help unless its plans are to be oppressive? The very call by Christians for the return of America back to her "godly" heritage is not only insulting, it is downright oppressive and anti the Christ it claims to follow!
To get to the point of my post: This is exactly why I have determined that living counter to the Christian culture of America is in fact very Godly. A Christian nation is anti-Christ!
Anti-consumerism was NEVER the point of
yesterday's post. It was just ONE of the many ways of being counter cultural that I listed. Maybe it was the following quote that led some readers to believe I was attacking consumerism:
"Know ye, that not the happiness of this earth is the sign of God's grace, and not him whom the Lord loveth doth He exalt with happiness and good fortune. The possessions of this earth are not the prizes which God distributeth among His chosen. The possessions of this earth He giveth to the wicked for the little merit that is in them. Often He maketh His chosen one the target of arrows; His beloved ones He rewardeth with sorrows: He filleth the way of the righteous toward Him with thorns, for the sorrows of man bring him nearer to God." ~ The Nazarene (pg 301)
I utilized that quote as a way to insist that every time a people group gets national status to promote their ideology they are the oppressors and therefor the rich. That quote was an excellent way to say that God does not bless by wordly riches. If God were to bless with wordly wealth than most of the world's population would be DAMNED just because of where they were born and I refuse to believe that! It is a popular Christian belief in America to THINK God blesses monetarily because that is what Christianized America would have us believe...but Jesus himself states: "I do NOT give to you as the world gives"
I am NOT against consumerism as a nation of people practice it per se...I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THE CHRISTIANIZING OF CONSUMERISM! Christianized consumerism absolutely oppresses those who in no way can afford to live up to the standards of the American dream. It leads them to believe that the blessings of God do not fall on them and therefor they must be one of God's unlovlies. The Christianization of of consumerism leads to debt as no one wishes to believe that they were solely created to be ignored by their creator and so they are willing to pay for the so called blessings of the American god with credit...and then the Christians come out and say that debt is a curse...does tying heavy burdens on the back's of people while not lifting a finger to help carry them ring a bell to anyone???
In closing I would like to state that I do not care how any Christian practices their religion. Be it Joel Osteen's "your Best Life Now" or a Mennonite congregation focused on self abnegation. The Christian Bible states that ALL see through a mirror dimly. ALL are wrong in their interpretation of God. Christian practices may have gems that point to God and reveal a facet of Him. Some forms of Christianity may speak to certain people about God and help them see Him more clearly, but no ONE Christian practice is the one and only way to God Almighty...get over yourselves!!! Christianity is one framework among many that God chooses to reveal Himself in...Jesus was a Jew.
May ALL Christians STOP seeking to Christianize a nation, that is by its very existence self seeking, to back up their own ideologies...it makes you look bad, and it confuses people who find themselves at your door step looking for true transformative spirituality! It is obvious you yourselves are spoiled self seekers who seek only to make yourselves comfortable in your own exclusive nation state! Instead choose to delve deeper into your particular understanding and choose to be a light of love and ACCEPTANCE in the dark places people find themselves in.
"When you dig deep enough into your own particularity you find universality" ~ Cornel West
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